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by BGuttman
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Tenor horn
Replies: 44
Views: 1277

Re: Tenor horn

I saw this in person the other night. I was hired to play an operatic concert. It included two Verdi pieces with the "cimbasso" part given to the tuba. He's a good player, but he's using a huge CC tuba. When the tuba is playing with the string bass to do the "oom"s on the 3/4 pieces, it was TOO LOUD...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Plz I really need help
Replies: 6
Views: 206

Re: Plz I really need help

Some of those stains are pretty deep and may never come out. Somebody put the horn away wet. After you are done fixing this, make sure you wipe the moisture off the horn before you put it away. You can try using a brass polish. I like the non-abrasive kind like Wright's LIQUID (not the paste) or a w...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Beuscher Small Shank
Replies: 1
Views: 41

Re: Beuscher Small Shank

If they are old enough they take an extra small (and short) shank. I have several mouthpieces of this sort that came with various antique trombones.

Doug Elliott makes a shank that should fit. Get in touch with him.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bach 4C history and usage
Replies: 3
Views: 233

Re: Bach 4C history and usage

I use it. I think they started after Mount Vernon. I think mine was from around 1975.

It used to be that small mouthpieces were 12C and 15C. Eventually Bach went to a 7C and introduced the 4C as a "larger" version. Definitely helped us large mouthpiece players (and bass trombone doublers).
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:02 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What is a Medium Shank?
Replies: 18
Views: 291

Re: What is a Medium Shank?

JoelKelley wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:57 am
Yes but on the Yamaha website it has it listed as requiring a medium shank mouthpiece..I really didnt know that they existed before now.
That's just WRONG. The Yamaha 640 takes a standard (small) shank mouthpiece.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Best complement to a .547 f att
Replies: 10
Views: 311

Re: Best complement to a .547 f att

Any general purpose small bore should help you cover all bases. Whether you go for 0.500" bore, 0.508" bore, or even a heavier 0.485" bore you should be OK. There are lots of good used horns out there. If you had a small bore that you learned on, that could be the instrument. A good Yamaha 354 or Ki...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: F. E. Olds Trombone Est. 1919 (custom?)
Replies: 1
Views: 67

Re: F. E. Olds Trombone Est. 1919 (custom?)

JohnL (our resident Olds expert) has some old catalogs where they use the slogan "it's the Bear" and I don't think they are referring to a particular musician; especially one as little known or remembered as this one. I have one of these as well. Mine appears to have a chrome plated bell (too blue t...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 467

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

Note: original question was which bell sections work for a Conn 6262 slide. This is a "normal" (i.e. not long) slide. While the older bells like the 72H will mount on the slide tenon, the result will be less than optimal. Probably the original request was what "normal" length bell sections will mate...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts
Replies: 23
Views: 409

Re: Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts

Each vowel sound has a particular tongue position. You will find that each vowel sound "fits" a particular note best. Then you need to figure out how to adjust the tongue position for the different notes. Don't think too much; play around and develop a feel for it. Otherwise it's paralysis by analys...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What is a Medium Shank?
Replies: 18
Views: 291

Re: What is a Medium Shank?

I think this discussion is probably moot since the OP was talking about a mouthpiece for a medium bore trombone.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Best complement to a .547 f att
Replies: 10
Views: 311

Re: Best complement to a .547 f att

mickael57280 wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:00 am
Is a rose brass bright enough to cut out for lead?
Really depends on you. For some it's fine. For others, not.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:14 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Marching Slide Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 164

Re: Marching Slide Trombone

Handled properly you should have few problems. I don't like marching an instrument where you can't hold it firmly, though and that's why I don't recommend marching with most trombones with triggers. There are some maneuvers that are hazardous and you have to be careful. Also watch for the ditzy flag...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:08 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Listening and learning by ear, alto
Replies: 6
Views: 157

Re: Listening and learning by ear, alto

Learning "by ear" involves learning the intervals that different partials and slide positions do relative to each other. I think you may do better than you think. Result: if you anchor one or two notes on the instrument you may find reading alto clef on the thing is easy.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve Trombone Acceptance
Replies: 25
Views: 686

Re: Valve Trombone Acceptance

I think you are supposed to hold a valve trombone much the way you would hold a trumpet. Both hands on the valve cluster. Elbows out.

If you try to hold it like a slide trombone you will be very uncomfortable since the valve section makes the instrument "nose heavy" relative to the bell brace.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What is a Medium Shank?
Replies: 18
Views: 291

Re: What is a Medium Shank?

Also please note that Medium Bore trombones generally do NOT have a Medium Shank mouthpiece. They take small (standard) shank mouthpieces.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:27 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: FS: A few mouthpieces
Replies: 7
Views: 941

Re: FS: A few mouthpieces

Illinibassbone won't be able to get PMs until he makes another post on the Site.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)
Replies: 17
Views: 262

Re: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)

Large bore is rounder and richer, but also doesn't carry as well outdoors. If you were to march with a large bore, you would have to play blastissimo to be heard. I'm still thinking that a medium bore might be the answer. Lots of choices out there; not just the TB-200 (which I am not terribly fond o...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King trombones
Replies: 5
Views: 246

Re: King trombones

In the 1930s there were Liberty trombones, and Liberty 2B trombones. The 2B ones were the dual bores. The single bore Liberty died out before World War II, so it's unlikely you will ind a single bore 2B between around 1938 and the introduction of the Jiggs in the 1990s. Note that HNWhite.com does no...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:18 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)
Replies: 17
Views: 262

Re: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)

Let's see if I understand you. You are playing a slide trombone in a marching band, not a Marching Trombone (an instrument the same size as a slide trombone but has 3 valves and is shaped like an oversize trumpet). You are using a Schilke 51D on a Bach TB-300 trombone. You say your tone is not good....
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King trombones
Replies: 5
Views: 246

Re: King trombones

HNwhite.com is a marvelous source for information on older King trombones. At one time the small bore was called Liberty and it was a single bore. Then they made it dual boare and gave that version the name 2B (for dual bore). After World War II King established the 14xx models with a 2B, a 3B (0.50...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 467

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

The SL6262 is designed a bit shorter than the slide normally supplied with the 70, 71, 72, and 73. This means that the bell section of these horns is a shade short and the combination may be unacceptably sharp.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Pumpenvalve Trombone on Craigslist!
Replies: 6
Views: 275

Re: Pumpenvalve Trombone on Craigslist!

I always thought these were Vienna Valves. Pumpen were sorta squat piston valves. The ones we associate with pistons today are Perinet valves.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:01 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Bass Trombone Pedal Range Help
Replies: 8
Views: 312

Re: Bass Trombone Pedal Range Help

I did the Remington exercise. The one that goes Bb-A-Bb-Ab-Bb-G-Bb ... in the pedal range. Also F-E-F-Eb, etc. in the trigger pedal range. I hope you get the idea.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:01 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve Trombone Acceptance
Replies: 25
Views: 686

Re: Valve Trombone Acceptance

sf105 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:34 pm
I've seen valve trombones used regularly in Italian community bands. So just move there... :)
Also in Portuguese and Mexican bands.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3rd brace on slide
Replies: 9
Views: 296

Re: 3rd brace on slide

Older TIS slides were heavy. I have several. If you don't have a good counterweight they will tire you out mercilessly.

Newer TIS slides are much lighter and you may be able to use them without the counterweight.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha YSL 646
Replies: 10
Views: 274

Re: Yamaha YSL 646

There were also Artist models in the 600 series. The 682B is for Ian Bousfield. It's a 682 with a heavier bell and larger valve. Note that my 682 had a one-piece bell. What Yamaha often does is to "downrate" models from Pro to Intermediate when they are replaced by newer models. The 645-648 series w...
by BGuttman
Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Favorite Mouthpieces?
Replies: 41
Views: 1416

Re: Favorite Mouthpieces?

Where’s the best place to buy them?? I know most people have probably been gathering for awhile but it sounds like people have sunk thousands of dollars into mouthpieces. Is there a cheap place I just haven’t heard of? Classified Ads here and on Trombone.org. Ebay. Borrow from friends (just remembe...
by BGuttman
Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve Trombone Acceptance
Replies: 25
Views: 686

Re: Valve Trombone Acceptance

Valve trombones were essentially wiped from the Orchestral scene about 100 years ago. Only F and Gb valves are used. For Jazz, anything goes. Slide trombones seem the most popular, but there have been great valve trombone players over the years. Juan Tizol was one. I think thpe main reason valve tro...
by BGuttman
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?
Replies: 10
Views: 311

Re: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?

I have a book I got from someone on TTF (forget who. Neo Bri?) for teaching alto clef that actually starts with exercises in bass clef. Being able to read bass clef on an alto trombone can be a very useful skill. While I was getting used to my alto I used to bring it to community band rehearsals and...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Pitted Lacquer Finish
Replies: 8
Views: 264

Re: Pitted Lacquer Finish

One thing you could try on the "pits" is a corrosion wadding. We have a brand here in the States called Nevr-Dull. You will probably find something similar in an auto parts store in your area. It's a cotton wad with a chemical that dissolves tarnish. You may find it doesn't do too much damage to the...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?
Replies: 8
Views: 292

Re: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?

greenbean wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:02 pm
Well, my 1970's tub of Burt Herrick slide cream is still going strong...
It had better. How would you replace it if you finished it? ;)
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:45 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB/WTT Olds P-24G valve parts
Replies: 7
Views: 305

Re: WTB/WTT Olds P-24G valve parts

You are all set now, Jim. You need 2 posts to send PM's.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO
Replies: 16
Views: 403

Re: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO

First, the small bottle of SOM is to be applied before the large bottle. You put a couple of drops on each stocking and work it in. Then you apply a few drops of the large bottle. You "refresh" the SOM with more drops from the large bottle. Bach Slide Cream is probably the same stuff as Conn Formula...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?
Replies: 8
Views: 292

Re: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?

I use UltraPure. I use it as a "refresher" on Trombotine (or cold cream) but it works great by itself as well.

I have had no problems with it going "bad", but I haven't had it for that long either.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO
Replies: 16
Views: 403

Re: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO

What did you do with your slide? If you tried to use Cascade dishwasher detergent as is, it' supposed to be diluted in HOT water (too hot for Bach lacquer!!!). You should have used a regular dishwashing detergent (the type you use in a sink). Diluted to regular working strength (i.e. a capful to a b...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:43 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?
Replies: 8
Views: 292

Re: How many years a slide lub bottle stay good?

Depends.

I have a 15 year old tube of Trombotine that is as good as new.

Some lubes tend to separate and you need to "reconstitute". Sometimes by shaking and sometimes it needs something more.

I've heard tales of Slide-O-Mix going bad if stored hot.

Hope this helps.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments
Replies: 23
Views: 671

Re: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments

The main way to save money is by using tooling and mass manufacture to reduce labor. Instead of working that crook to fit perfectly, jam it into a fixture and mass solder. Again, using lower skilled (and hence less expensive) labor can reduce cost. Also, you sell a higher percentage of what you make...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: HP 932 & 933 ink cartridges
Replies: 8
Views: 364

Re: HP 932 & 933 ink cartridges

Which printer do they fit? I know it's not mine...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: New Posts
Replies: 6
Views: 174

Re: New Posts

In your "Quick Links" (or the three bar icon) there is "unread posts". These are posts you have not read since your last logged visit.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Buzz mute?
Replies: 16
Views: 884

Re: Buzz mute?

Withering? All I said was that at 4 feet away it didn't buzz!

I like your adventurousness, and hope Mark 2 (3? 4?) is better.
by BGuttman
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:45 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: A trombone-shaped object
Replies: 5
Views: 411

Re: A trombone-shaped object

greenbean wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:16 pm
... I like how the horn will be randomly silver or gold!...
I guess that means that the person in the warehouse picking out the instrument can't read the label to tell which finish you ordered. :evil:
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: A trombone-shaped object
Replies: 5
Views: 411

Re: A trombone-shaped object

Ammoon is not Chinese, but Indian. There is a Trent Hamilton video about one where he describes it as a "soul destroying experience". Yet he manages to get a few good notes out of it.
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Brass shops new england ?
Replies: 9
Views: 316

Re: Brass shops new england ?

Osmun Brass is now located in Acton, about an hour northwest of Boston. They don't have much used stock. If you need a repair, they are world class. Hermann Baumann has them work his French Horns. They do great brass work on all instruments from trumpets to tubas.
by BGuttman
Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:59 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Forum forgets me...
Replies: 21
Views: 1179

Re: Forum forgets me...

You aren't alone. If I simply move away from TC in my browser, or use a non-online app (like a game) and come back I need to relog into TC. And I'm supposedly staff with higher access.

I'm sure Matt K will figure it out or find somebody who can.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Looking to get a mouthpiece to improve my lower register
Replies: 17
Views: 802

Re: Looking to get a mouthpiece to improve my lower register

Remember, if you go bigger for the low range you will have to rebuild your high range.

That said, I always liked "4" size mouthpeces. I play a 4C for jazz, a Wick 4BS for concert work on my Bach 36, and a Wick 4BL on my symphonic tenor. The same size is Schilke/Yamaha 52,
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Brass shops new england ?
Replies: 9
Views: 316

Re: Brass shops new england ?

Thanks, Gabe. I haven't been down that way in quite a while.

As to New York, the best brass is out at Dillon's. There used to be a lot of musical instrument shops on 48th Street between 7th and 8th Avenue, but a lot of them are now gee-tar centers.
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 7th position lip slurs
Replies: 12
Views: 497

Re: 7th position lip slurs

you might try going down instead of up: start in 1st and work your way to 7th. I you have an F-attachment, do T3, t4, T5, and T6 (i you can reach it). You don't have to start at the 2nd partial (low E in 7th); try starting on a diferent partial and going out. Example in 1st position: "tuning Bb", F ...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Brass shops new england ?
Replies: 9
Views: 316

Re: Brass shops new england ?

First, locate Shires. They just moved, but aren't too far from where they used to be; just southwest of Boston. Let them know a little ahead of time and they will let you test all kinds of horns. In Boston, your best bet is next door to Rayburn's near Symphony Hall. I don't know the name of the shop...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Anonymity
Replies: 15
Views: 588

Re: Anonymity

Burgerbob wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:27 am
Who is this guy?
Says the guy who has neither Burger nor Bob in his real name :tongue:
by BGuttman
Thu May 31, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombone slide rod
Replies: 7
Views: 306

Re: Trombone slide rod

Proper technique is to attach a piece of cheesecloth or muslin, about 1" wide (2-3 cm) by about 4 feet (1 meter 30 cm) long. Place the cloth through the eye of the trombone rod and tie a knot in it. Then wrap the cloth in a spiral around the rod. The cloth should be long enough that when you put the...

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