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by BGuttman
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Benge 175F
Replies: 14
Views: 353

Re: Benge 175F

All things being equal, the King will have a higher resale price. You may find the Medium Bore Benge able to take more air than the smaller King. But it's a small difference. You may be well served to learn to play a smaller bore with less air. I usually refer to small bores as "finesse" horns and l...
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: George Roberts ce mouthpiece
Replies: 8
Views: 154

Re: George Roberts ce mouthpiece

Bassbonechandler wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:04 pm
I tried sending a pm. It's in my outbox but it isn't in the sent messages part.
It will show up in your Sent box after the recipients opens it. Not to worry.
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jazz trombone advice?
Replies: 11
Views: 230

Re: Jazz trombone advice?

It's not what I like. It's what YOU like. There are dozens of jazz horns showing up on our Classifieds all the time. Look for something that seems interesting. Some suggestions: Bach 8, 12, 16 Benge 170 Conn 4H, 6H, 10H, 12H, 24H, 48H Getzen 1050 Holton 65, 67, 69 King 2B, 2B+, 3B Martin Imperial, C...
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jazz trombone advice?
Replies: 11
Views: 230

Re: Jazz trombone advice?

I would assume you didn't start on the Xeno. Do you still have the horn you used before it? a King 606 or Yamaha 354 makes a really good lead horn, especially for High School or College. If you traded your starter horn in, you can probably score a good used King 2B, 3B, Conn 4H, Conn 6H, Olds Record...
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info
Replies: 11
Views: 290

Re: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info

If you have something and somebody else wants to pay for it, you can sell it. Copyright gets involved when you want to replicate it or broadcast it. I've bought lots of Mozart and Beethoven symphonies, both sheet music and recordings. It's all Public Domain music, but the folks who printed the sheet...
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trombone Materials
Replies: 30
Views: 2578

Re: Trombone Materials

Color is only one facet of how an alloy responds. There is also the hardness. Brass is currently sold in three hardnesses, but the amount of metalworking will change it to something else.

So we have alloy, thicness, and work hardening. All are part of the equation.
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: George Roberts ce mouthpiece
Replies: 8
Views: 154

Re: George Roberts ce mouthpiece

I think George Roberts let every mouthpiece maker of the time copy his mouthpiece. I don't know which he really played.

I have a Marcinkiewicz GR and I like it as a small bass mouthpiece.

I wouldn't expect to get a big premium for it unless you can prove he actually played it.
by BGuttman
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Beethoven 9th Symphony - Alto or Tenor
Replies: 2
Views: 109

Re: Beethoven 9th Symphony - Alto or Tenor

When we did it our 1st player rented an alto. But this was 30 years ago and altos weren't as popular or common as they are now. He had been planning to use his King 3B but it got stolen (boo!). I know the 1st part can be played by a good tenor player on tenor. Issue is when the 1st trombone is doubl...
by BGuttman
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 82
Views: 1748

Re: Db bass trombone!

Interesting. So this is a single valve instrument with the valve actuated by your finger (middle?)?
by BGuttman
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Benge 175F
Replies: 14
Views: 353

Re: Benge 175F

Either one will work. I think I might go for the 3B-F, all things being equal.

Again, condition trumps anything else. Try to play it if you can.
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!
Replies: 35
Views: 1429

Re: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!

One way around the high cost of charts is to "roll your own". I've played in a bunch of bands where they have home-grown charts of standards... That doesn't get you around copyright issues, though. It gets you around the arranger copyright issues. It doesn't help you with song copyright issues. Sti...
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:49 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!
Replies: 35
Views: 1429

Re: I took over a big band and I am officially insane!

One way around the high cost of charts is to "roll your own". I've played in a bunch of bands where they have home-grown charts of standards that are really pretty awful but they seem to sound OK to the audience. This is especially true for the bands playing for Senior Center dancers.
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:44 am
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: Livestream - New Zealand Brass Band Championships - Next 3 days
Replies: 4
Views: 123

Re: Livestream - New Zealand Brass Band Championships - Next 3 days

I watched some of the Euph solos last night (the time schedule is pretty bad for us Yanks). Some very impressive playing. I'd hate to have to adjudicate a contest like that. The things that separate the top 3 or 4 are really trivial. Sometimes I wish they could let those of us in Europe and America ...
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:37 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone
Replies: 6
Views: 156

Re: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone

I would suggest a relatively large mouthpiece also. You could look at the Wick 4AY (which is meant for the Yamaha 321 Euphonium). You can also get a Schilke 52E2 in small shank. I even tried a Warburton 3B on a 6ST shank (which is a bass trombone mouthpiece). I'm talking about regular small shank Ba...
by BGuttman
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: In bell trombone stand
Replies: 3
Views: 76

Re: In bell trombone stand

I can tell you one to avoid: the K&M in-bell. Mine broke and could not be fixed. Most K&M stands are really good, but this one isn't. Hercules is probably the only other game for an in-bell. I know somebody who uses one and likes it. I use a regular stand. I have the K&M 14980 and it works pretty we...
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Benge 175F
Replies: 14
Views: 353

Re: Benge 175F

That's much tougher. The sound you get is a combination of the design of the horn and what it has endured for the past umpteen years.

In general I'd say a Benge 175 will sound a little more "symphonic" than a 3B-F. That said, either one works for a wide variety of conditions.
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:15 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Benge 175F
Replies: 14
Views: 353

Re: Benge 175F

Benge 175F is a true Medium Bore (0.525") while the 3B-F is a little smaller (0.508" bore).

3B-F has thumb over bell brace (a problem for some) while the 175F has a Conn-style trigger arrangement.
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:12 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bach 1864 case fit?
Replies: 7
Views: 163

Re: Bach 1864 case fit?

My 36C came in a case like this. The case is intended for 36 and 42 models.

If you don't need to open it a lot, consider a Slide Doctor box. They are pretty reasonable.
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:02 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: MEK
Replies: 5
Views: 188

Re: MEK

The MEK was a great idea until it went to some kid who figured it was a way to make money by selling them. Since he was a kid, he just kept the mouthpieces and (I guess) sold them off one by one. We had no recourse to try to get them back. The problem is that if you send the kit to somebody who is u...
by BGuttman
Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton 158 how much?
Replies: 11
Views: 219

Re: Holton 158 how much?

For Tom's benefit: 158 has a valve. The straight version is 156.
by BGuttman
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece suggestions
Replies: 12
Views: 332

Re: Mouthpiece suggestions

First, the mouthpiece you use for Bass is going to necessarily be bigger than anything you use on the smaller horns. So forget about a 93 rim on a shallow cup. You can either choose a rim sized for the horn or one rim with many cups. For the latter choice you need to look at Doug Elliott; he's proba...
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Benge 175F
Replies: 14
Views: 353

Re: Benge 175F

These were made by King in the 1980s intended to be a more "orchestral" horn than the regular "B" series.

The 175 is Medium Bore (takes a standard shank mouthpiece) with an open wrap F-attachment.

100% Pro horn. Great general purpose instrument.
by BGuttman
Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:22 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Windy City Mutes?
Replies: 3
Views: 132

Re: Windy City Mutes?

They work fine. Are they materially better than the other brands? No. Are they materially worse? No. If you have a very snooty section that listens with their eyes you may get complaints about blending. If they were to listen with their ears, they would shut up.
by BGuttman
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Tools for the trade
Replies: 9
Views: 311

Re: Tools for the trade

Most important thing is a bunch of steel rods (and a vise to hold them). you need rods for all the different tubes you have. Note that the rod for an inner tube is too small for an outer tube. You will need a good flat surface to check slides. A granite table is pricey, but invaluable. Note that it ...
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: 7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.
Replies: 4
Views: 130

Re: 7/16-24: Road trip to NYC; things to do in/along the way.

Take I-81 up the spine of the Appalachian Mountains. You can visit Luray Caverns in Virginia.

As you approach New York City, stop in New Jersey at Dillon's. best selection of used instruments you will see anywhere.
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 69
Views: 4116

Re: The Bunker

There was a change in command at Hanscom AFB (near Boston) and there wasn't a full band. Only an ad hoc collection of volunteer musicians (including me). I felt bad for the two generals. In their infinite wisdom, the Air Force eliminated both the Band of Liberty (stationed at Hanscom) and the Reserv...
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 69
Views: 4116

Re: The Bunker

Showed up for my fireworks concert and there were no French Horns. I knew one was a Late Looey Iand she usually plays principal). So I got the 2nd Horn book and played a cmbination of Eb and F music for the evening. I think my brain still hurts from all the transposing/reading.
by BGuttman
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Budget large trombones
Replies: 13
Views: 386

Re: Budget large trombones

TR-150 has thumb over bell brace actuation and 9" bel. Straight 0.547" slide. Crisafulli model.
TR-158 has yellow 9" bell and straight 0,547" slide.
TR-159 has 9" gold brass bell (I think) and dual bore slide. Friedman model.

There are also 258 and 259 with screw bell. Not common.
by BGuttman
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 2b Identify
Replies: 9
Views: 304

Re: King 2b Identify

Let's also not rule out a counterfeit. There is something not right for this to be the age claimed

The only kings I'm aware of with 5 digit serials predate the 2B by a decade.
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 2b Identify
Replies: 9
Views: 304

Re: King 2b Identify

If it is indeed from around the period you mention, the engraving on the bell should be "King" and "2102. King hit 999999 some time in the mid 1980s but I thought they started back with 100000. Note that hnwhite covers King trombones up to 1965 when it was sold to Seeburg. It's great for very old ho...
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Hymn to the Fallen Bass part
Replies: 6
Views: 189

Re: Hymn to the Fallen Bass part

I'll give you the same suggestion I gave to a tuba player playing the Tchaikovsky "Romeo and Juliet" (with a 30 second note). Find places where you are covered and breathe there. Strategy overcomes lung capacity.
by BGuttman
Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:58 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Artist select program
Replies: 4
Views: 228

Re: Artist select program

If an artist selects a particular trombone, it's going to be perfect for that artist. If you happen to be identical to that artist it will also be perfect for you. But we are all different. What's worse, we all change as we develop and what's "perfect" today may not be so tomorrow. A number of teach...
by BGuttman
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636

Personally I'd go for the 3BF. While I like the SuperStar, it's got to be 40+ years old. 3BF has a sound considered current.

As in all things, condition trumps preference. If the SuperStar is in better condition than the 3BF, go with the SuperStar.
by BGuttman
Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:33 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636

I am not a fan of the Conn 50H, but given your budget I would say "buy what you can afford, provided it is in good condition, and play the heck out of it. A good student horn with F might serve fine. If you can earn enough money you can upgrade later. Given you are in Europe, look into the Markneuki...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Student upgrade from Blessing B88-O
Replies: 35
Views: 1002

Re: Student upgrade from Blessing B88-O

I think he ought to get over his aversion to string linkages. They work fine. Only problem I ever had with one was a kid who had one strung with polyester line who put it in front of a space heater. String melted! Strings need periodic replacement. Mine last 5 years or so with constant playing. They...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 82
Views: 1748

Re: Db bass trombone!

The problems mentioned were at least in part a reason for the development of the Yamaha 350-C, a C trombone with a Bb attachment used in an ascending mode. The basic Bb instrument only needs 5 positions because the valve allows a near 6th and 7th. A number of us have reversed the 350-C valve so it's...
by BGuttman
Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 82
Views: 1748

Re: Db bass trombone!

I'm not sure I agree with all your premises, although I like the fact that you are trying something different. I don't have a prejudice one way or the other. Having had to learn instruments in Bb, CC, Eb, F, and G means that it's just a matter of getting used to the new setup. We have had bass tromb...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Wessex Bones
Replies: 26
Views: 1387

Re: New Wessex Bones

imsevimse wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:04 am
pedrombon wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:46 am
1675 euros
Yes I meant 1675 EURO. That's cheaper than $2995. I don't understand this. How come the difference in price? Is it Trump and the customs on metal?

/Tom
Why? How much steel and aluminum is there in it? :idk:
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Yamaha 643
Replies: 3
Views: 177

Re: Yamaha 643

Good horn in its own right.
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles
Replies: 19
Views: 542

Re: Info about Olds trombone Los Angeles

Wow, that's an original Rudy Muck! Those are really prized by jazz players, but they tend to be really small. If you have never tried anything else and you are really used to playing a tuba you may find it uncomfortable. You might want to find a Bach 7C or even a 4C and see if it plays better. For w...
by BGuttman
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636

The SuperStar is a nice horn. Really a "small" bore with F. A better version of the A-20 Ambassador with F. For amateur or outdoor it's fantastic. Audition for Concertgebouw? No. As a sole trombone in a Rock band, I'd use it in a heartbeat. Only real limitation I know of is that you can't really ret...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636

Market conditions vary all over the world. In the US I wouldn't pay more than $500 for one. In Europe, the prices are higher.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: How much for charts?
Replies: 12
Views: 331

Re: How much for charts?

We are not advocating use of pirated charts. Even Greg (Kingfan) is buying a set of originals to legitimize his copies. Originally he had refused to buy the set of copies from the old band leader but they were included in a sale including a bunch of other goods. The original post was that someone wa...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H

I'd stay away from large bore. I think the 636 is large bore. If you want an F-attachment, consider a King 3B or one of the multitude of Medium Bore horns with F-attachments. Yamaha 640, 684, 646 as examples.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:13 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: How much for charts?
Replies: 12
Views: 331

Re: How much for charts?

Gary, the Copyright Police are not coming after everybody who makes a copy and keeps the original in a safe place. They are really testy when you buy one copy of the arrangement and then make several sets of parts to distribute to different bands. They also get upset when you are a famous band touri...
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 6h
Replies: 6
Views: 428

Re: Conn 6h

The 6H was named Victor at some point. The model is discontinued; replaced by the 100H.
The 6H was a great jazz horn. Lots of people still use them. As with all older horns, check condition carefully before putting down your money.
by BGuttman
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds 25 info?
Replies: 23
Views: 600

Re: Olds 25 info?

King 4B 2104 and 4B Sonorous are exactly the same. They dropped the Sonorous name in the late 1970s. Note that there is a 2104, 2104 with F, and 2105 (used to be called Symphony). 2105 has an F-attachment and a 9" (225 mm) bell.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which Bach model is this?
Replies: 25
Views: 822

Re: Which Bach model is this?

With an 8" bell, that engraving, and the relatively wide grip I'd guess a Bach TB-200.
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds 25 info?
Replies: 23
Views: 600

Re: Olds 25 info?

King 3B is 0.508" bore. King 4B is 0.547" bore. 3B takes a standard shank mouthpiece and 4B takes a large shank mouthpiece. If you are skipping King 607 and 608 (both Intermediate), skip Conn 50H. It's a Director (student horn). If you can find one, the Benge 175 (Medium Bore) and 190 (large bore) a...
by BGuttman
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 50H / YSL 882 / JSL 636
Replies: 25
Views: 636

Re: Conn 50H

I think you will be less tired after a session on the 50H than after playing the 882. Also, if the location is dangerous to the horn I'd take the 50H in a heartbeat. If you are playing unamplified with a bunch of electronic twangies hooked into amps set to 11, neither will be good; I'd go for someth...

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