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by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What do you do when people don't like your sound?
Replies: 7
Views: 41

Re: What do you do when people don't like your sound?

I left out "time" in my previous reply. If you're playing a fraction late - very common in bass trombonists - your sound will get lost and maybe lack "presence." In any case, record the ensemble and listen critically for all of those things, and also have somebody else listen to get a different view...
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:35 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What do you do when people don't like your sound?
Replies: 7
Views: 41

Re: What do you do when people don't like your sound?

Do you know what direction you need to go to please this particular conductor? In some situations, how you feel about your sound, balance, and blend is a lot less important than how the person out front feels about it. From the perspective in front, you may sound very different than you think. Befor...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info
Replies: 26
Views: 639

Re: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info

I'm pretty sure that was the agreement at the time.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:09 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece suggestions
Replies: 20
Views: 732

Re: Mouthpiece suggestions

When you say "I find I can't tighten my lips enough during performance as it keeps falling/dropping even though I move the mouthpiece up and tighten lips. " Do you mean the mouthpiece slips down off of your top lip? If so, when does it happen? When you try to play high notes? Or when you play low no...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info
Replies: 26
Views: 639

Re: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info

The person who ran Rewindplay may have died. I can't remember his name but he was an older guy when I was in.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info
Replies: 26
Views: 639

Re: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info

The military is not selling recordings. They have been known to give other entities the right to make and sell recordings, I suppose to offset the considerable cost of production but not for profit. I can't point you to the applicable laws but I know there was a lot of discussion about that when I w...
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Chin Shaking?
Replies: 1
Views: 150

Re: Chin Shaking?

My first guess without seeing you is that you're trying to play with too little mouthpiece pressure.

If you want specific advice with some validity, I can see you on Skype
by Doug Elliott
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info
Replies: 26
Views: 639

Re: SOS:: Airmen of Note Info

U.S. Military albums are public domain, and people selling them for profit technically are committing a copyright crime. Contact the band directly, through military channels. They will be able to make copies and send you one. http://www.music.af.mil/Bands/The-United-States-Air-Force-Band/Ensembles/...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: ITF disrespect
Replies: 7
Views: 373

Re: ITF disrespect

Well I might have made a scene so maybe it's better I didn't go.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: ITF disrespect
Replies: 7
Views: 373

Re: ITF disrespect

I guess nothing's changed, the same thing happened last year with Bill Watrous, Bob McChesney, Scott Whitfield, and Dick Nash.
But instead of leaving, I stood up and yelled at the audience. It's on YouTube.

I actually meant to go tonight but got caught up in other things.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: Who's going to ITF?
Replies: 4
Views: 618

Re: Who's going to ITF?

Apparently so.

Today on the drive out we passed a Google Maps camera car. First time I've seen one.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:26 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece suggestions
Replies: 20
Views: 732

Re: Mouthpiece suggestions

Probably yes
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece
Replies: 6
Views: 266

Re: Canadian Brass Eugene Watts G2 trombone mouthpiece

I the very beginning I made just 2 or 3 for them, and I don't know what happened to them or how they were labeled. Your description sounds like it could be one of those.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece suggestions
Replies: 20
Views: 732

Re: Mouthpiece suggestions

I don't play bass trombone. I have faked it several times when necessary and I think I've used completely different mouthpieces each time, getting progressively bigger, playing on my large tenor. The only "bass trombone" I have is a 1930's Olds 547/562 TIS flatwrap which I think is a pretty cool hor...
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece suggestions
Replies: 20
Views: 732

Re: Mouthpiece suggestions

Playing several different rim sizes requires regular practice on all of them to keep up the ability to switch. I think everyone who uses completely different mouthpieces for different horns agrees on that. My preference - as a professional player, I'm not an amateur - is to use my limited practice t...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:19 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?
Replies: 13
Views: 464

Re: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?

Yes, but Wycliffe is not necessarily the best choice as a first one to listen and copy. It's a good idea to go back and listen to who HE listened to. And others.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?
Replies: 13
Views: 464

Re: Your favorite/best improv trombone jazz musicians?

Start with ONE big name you like. It's easy to get overwhelmed and too spread out trying to listen and copy too many different styles.
by Doug Elliott
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:28 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Beginner Euphonium
Replies: 13
Views: 625

Re: Beginner Euphonium

Baltimore Brass is a good place to check. Good players work there, they know what they have, they don't sell junk, and they price everything fairly. And they ship - you don't have to go there.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Most efficient way of learning a fast passage
Replies: 7
Views: 260

Re: Most efficient way of learning a fast passage

I like to go back and forth between "at tempo" in small chunks, and half tempo.

Also, work on it with different articulations including no articulation. Getting good at it in different contexts makes it comfortable.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Bill Watrous
Replies: 12
Views: 606

Re: Bill Watrous

Wow.... that's some really nice playing. Thanks for posting it.

I have some tapes from the early ITW's and ETW's in the '70's but I don't know what condition they're in.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: How do you teach/describe your “breathing concept”?
Replies: 47
Views: 1034

Re: How do you teach/describe your “breathing concept”?

"Breathing" encompasses so many different things - Inhaling vs exhaling (as they apply to everything below) Above the neck vs below the neck vs in the neck In the mouth At the embouchure Some people like to lump everything together as "breathing.". I look at it as a dozen or two different things. If...
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Versions of the Bach 16
Replies: 16
Views: 578

Re: Versions of the Bach 16

I always felt like the open gooseneck was a bit too open. But I've never actually owned one.
I think it was in the late 70's when they changed that.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB: Budget Pro Small Bore
Replies: 4
Views: 357

Re: WTB: Budget Pro Small Bore

Yamaha 354's can be found for less than that.
Olds trombones from the 50's and 60's would be a good choice - pretty much any of them.
You can borrow my Recording for a while if you want, but it's not for sale.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 68
Views: 2819

Re: What we're doing

An orchestra player's pay per note is already more than just about anybody else.
by Doug Elliott
Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue position
Replies: 5
Views: 315

Re: Tongue position

"Far" does not involve the tip of the tongue at all, it more resembles a breath attack starting with just air. You should experiment but realize that "what works" may very well change as you develop. If you want something specific to work on, articulate legato using the tip on the bump that's in the...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Advantages with a soprano trombone
Replies: 11
Views: 582

Re: Advantages with a soprano trombone

I took my F alto in my suitcase on a trip to Europe - and never played it at all.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Bach 42AF rings at B flat below middle C
Replies: 9
Views: 350

Re: New Bach 42AF rings at B flat below middle C

I have experienced that with some horns that ring too much. There is such a thing as too much bell vibration.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Etiquette for buying a used horn online
Replies: 11
Views: 329

Re: Etiquette for buying a used horn online

You can make your policy whatever you want.
If you make it clear nobody should be shocked.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Thoughts and idea on how to improve my legato.
Replies: 10
Views: 474

Re: Thoughts and idea on how to improve my legato.

Practice with no tongue, trying to make it totally smooth as if singing with no articulation. Then when you add the tongue back in, keep that smoothness with constant airflow and sound, no bumps either up or down, slide moving in, out, or still. You have to really listen closely and keep everything ...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is the use of an small shank with adapter negative compared to using a large shank?
Replies: 3
Views: 294

Re: Is the use of an small shank with adapter negative compared to using a large shank?

The backbore makes a huge difference in the way a mouthpiece plays.

I guess it depends on the mouthpiece, the adaptor, ...and you, and the horn. It may play fine but it's not the same and it can't be.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: “Remington” or Morse Taper on 88H
Replies: 15
Views: 450

Re: “Remington” or Morse Taper on 88H

A Morse taper shank will seal but not play as well as it should - it leaves a gap around the end of the shank which has a bad acoustic effect even without leaking.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue position
Replies: 5
Views: 315

Re: Tongue position

Yes, work on that curled up tip that gets a better release and sound quality. In time you will get used to it, or fine-tune it as you become more aware of your best sound and what it feels like to get it. That pretty much describes my own sensation for tonguing. It doesn't feel "natural" at all but ...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:16 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece cleaning
Replies: 14
Views: 515

Re: Mouthpiece cleaning

Or the green Wintergreen scented kind of isopropyl alcohol that's available in most stores here.
by Doug Elliott
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Contrabass- mouthpiece?
Replies: 5
Views: 416

Re: Contrabass- mouthpiece?

I make a variety of pieces for contra with lots of choices.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:26 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Le Freque sound inhancer
Replies: 31
Views: 1210

Re: Le Freque sound inhancer

We already know that moving mass around can change things, better and worse.
They're just selling a product to do that.
You can always do anything cheaper if that's your priority.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Le Freque sound inhancer
Replies: 31
Views: 1210

Re: Le Freque sound inhancer

I didn't say there was no BS in the hype...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Le Freque sound inhancer
Replies: 31
Views: 1210

Re: Le Freque sound inhancer

The shape of a mouthpiece blank can affect the sound and response. The placement of braces on the horn, counterweight or no, soldered or unsoldered bell rim, etc, can all affect the sound and response. If adding a small bit of mass at a certain point would be beneficial, it's an easy way to try it. ...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Hissing behind soft palate
Replies: 9
Views: 388

Re: Hissing behind soft palate

It might go away with practice but it could also be a structural defect with your soft palate that allows air to leak past it. Somebody, I think it was Elliot Chasanov, wrote about having that problem and I think he actually had surgery to fix it.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Hissing behind soft palate
Replies: 9
Views: 388

Re: Hissing behind soft palate

Do you mean an air leak into your nasal passages? That's all I can imagine, if you really mean behind your soft palate.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: What is a Medium Shank?
Replies: 18
Views: 569

Re: What is a Medium Shank?

Cut it open and see what it looks like on the inside. Medium should be pink.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts
Replies: 24
Views: 876

Re: Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts

You can sing one pitch and produce different vowel sounds (tongue shapes) while holding the note - that's how we speak and sing words. However you can't whistle one pitch and change the vowel tongue position - the whistled pitch will change. The resonance cavity of your mouth has a huge effect on pl...
by Doug Elliott
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: I have found a mouthpiece for my Soprano-trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 362

Re: I have found a mouthpiece for my Soprano-trombone

I have some extremely shallow cups that work well, but it's always a mind game playing up an octave from the feel of a tenor rim.
I have a nice Minick soprano and I wish I could make use of it but so far I just don't have the time to put into it.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Bass Trombone Pedal Range Help
Replies: 8
Views: 539

Re: Bass Trombone Pedal Range Help

Take your time and don't try to rush it. Lots of players get into trouble trying for a great pedal range when their chops are simply not ready. Work on what you have, then VERY gradually add a 1/2 step at a time. That's a range where everybody has trouble getting past Ab and G. Just spend a lot of t...
by Doug Elliott
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:41 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: I need help to stop coasting!
Replies: 20
Views: 954

Re: I need help to stop coasting!

How much you practice is not important. HOW you practice is very important. It sounds to me like you could use a good lesson on chop fundamentals. Got Skype? You know where to find me, that's what I do.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Miles Anderson
Replies: 6
Views: 535

Re: Miles Anderson

I haven't looked at my records in years but I know I have his first one, and maybe more.
And there was a trio on CD with his wife and somebody else, but I can't remember much about that right now.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:08 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?
Replies: 11
Views: 667

Re: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?

Memorize just 2 notes on the alto clef staff today. Add one more tomorrow. In a week you'll know all of them.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Musicians
Topic: Miles Anderson
Replies: 6
Views: 535

Re: Miles Anderson

Does anybody know how Miles is doing now? I haven't talked to him in years. Super nice guy.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 7th position lip slurs
Replies: 12
Views: 820

Re: 7th position lip slurs

Give me an idea of how much you expect to ever play any of those notes in 7th besides low E and. B.

That how much I would worry about it.

Oh yeah, I played a couple of E's in the staff on a gig yesterday, because they came after a low B. That's twice that I can remember from the past decade or so.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments
Replies: 23
Views: 1088

Re: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments

Trombones are not nearly as big sellers as trumpets and saxes. I'm sure that for mass production they use far more fixtures and automation than for trombones that need more hand work, and that would explain the possible "loss" on student trombone manufacturing.

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