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by Burgerbob
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Wtb: ergobone
Replies: 5
Views: 147

Re: Wtb: ergobone

Bought one new! Spendy but absolutely worth it for the big trombone.
by Burgerbob
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Elkhart Conn 60H
Replies: 5
Views: 319

Re: FS: Elkhart Conn 60H

The original was completely reamed out... Didn't fit anything and blew very diffuse in all registers. I'd love to get something better for it but I just don't use it often enough.
by Burgerbob
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone
Replies: 9
Views: 257

Re: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone

Depends on the brand. Some are pretty good instruments, some are not.
by Burgerbob
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires twin valve
Replies: 3
Views: 255

Re: Shires twin valve

I'm not sure about it at all! I do wish the pictures were less blurry.
by Burgerbob
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires twin valve
Replies: 3
Views: 255

Re: Shires twin valve

Yup!





Basically, each valve is half of the pathway. This way they only have to turn 60 degrees (or less?) and the port sizes can be pretty large for a small valve size.
by Burgerbob
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:20 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Elkhart Conn 6H
Replies: 0
Views: 108

FS: Elkhart Conn 6H

Yes, this is a different post from the 60H! This is my long-time 1967 6H up for sale. Great little .500 horn that plays larger or smaller than it is depending on the mouthpiece. Great Conn sound. One larger ding in the bell, but no other huge blemishes. No lacquer, and a really cool result inside th...
by Burgerbob
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Elkhart Conn 60H
Replies: 5
Views: 319

FS: Elkhart Conn 60H

Hey all,

Got my Elkhart up for sale. Great horn with some work done by John Sandhagen. Currently includes a Corporation Bach 50 leadpipe. No case.

$1650 and I'll pay for shipping!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
by Burgerbob
Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.
Replies: 13
Views: 433

Re: Looking for info on the BAC Trombone.

I work with a guy that plays a BAC full time. He loves it and sounds great on it! I know another monster player that gave up a Rath and and Edwards to play an Elliot Mason horn full time.

I've played a couple of their horns, including a bass. They were pretty good.
by Burgerbob
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jazz trombone advice?
Replies: 18
Views: 562

Re: Jazz trombone advice?

TromboneCat wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:28 pm
Thanks for the advice!

No, I didn't start on the Xeno, but I don't have my starter horn anymore. It was pretty terrible anyway.

I have been looking at the King 2B and 3B and the Conn 6H, but I don't love the Olds sound. Do you have a preference between any of those horns?
Pm sent.
by Burgerbob
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Wtb: ergobone
Replies: 5
Views: 147

Re: Wtb: ergobone

I wasn't sure if they shipped to the US... Finding a dealer here didn't seem possible!
by Burgerbob
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:45 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: George Roberts ce mouthpiece
Replies: 8
Views: 236

Re: George Roberts ce mouthpiece

Do you have a picture of it? I think I may have the same piece.

Apparently they were made in a series by a machinist here in LA.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: Wtb: ergobone
Replies: 5
Views: 147

Wtb: ergobone

Looking for a complete ergobone setup.

Pm or email.

Thanks!
by Burgerbob
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:17 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Le Freque sound inhancer
Replies: 31
Views: 1183

Re: Le Freque sound inhancer

Heavy valve caps absolutely do change things about a horn.

Adding mass anywhere will change something!
by Burgerbob
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:36 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone
Replies: 9
Views: 257

Re: Appropriate Mouthpiece for a Marching Baritone

Anything up to a Wick 4BS would probably be fine.

I play mine (and have my students play theirs) with Hammond 12L or 12XL, like larger 5G and 51D.
by Burgerbob
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: WITRMPA 11C?
Replies: 2
Views: 132

Re: WITRMPA 11C?

Lots of guys around here on 11Cs.
by Burgerbob
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Bach 1864 case fit?
Replies: 7
Views: 176

Re: Bach 1864 case fit?

If it fits a 42 slide safely, it'll fit a 50 slide.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:14 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 64
Views: 2688

Re: What we're doing

Back in town... and of course it's over 110 degrees. Heading to the hardware store to find a new slide screw for my contra, and on the lookout for a new small horn. I do go through a lot of horns, but I really like to have one setup for each instrument that I don't need to change. Just found out rec...
by Burgerbob
Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Horn Porn for July 3rd.....
Replies: 16
Views: 515

Re: Horn Porn for July 3rd.....

Neo Bri wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:57 pm
What are the valves?
Ball bearing rotors.
by Burgerbob
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve
Replies: 8
Views: 344

Re: S.E. Shires tru-bore™ valve

Have you had the throw on your axial worked on?
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 64
Views: 2688

Re: What we're doing

Finished up an audition, taught 4 days of drum corps, now heading to the beach for a week with the family. Time to test the screwbell case!
by Burgerbob
Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Db bass trombone!
Replies: 92
Views: 2130

Re: Db bass trombone!

Small point: Tubas play in many different keys (as do trumpet players). However, all of those instruments use the same valve system, with some added valves on some tubas. Nothing needs to be relearned except the odd 5th or 6th valve. Only the way you read with those same valve combinations has chang...
by Burgerbob
Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Single Bore or Dual Bore?
Replies: 9
Views: 433

Re: Single Bore or Dual Bore?

I made the switch for an Edwards dual bore on my bass a year and change ago. Most of my sound models play them, after all. I found it added just a smidge of weight to the sound and made the horn easier to play. There are, of course, drawbacks. The slot is much larger for every note, requiring more i...
by Burgerbob
Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:15 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Which Bach model is this?
Replies: 25
Views: 869

Re: Which Bach model is this?

I believe that may be a trombone.

Don't quote me on that.
by Burgerbob
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Contrabass- mouthpiece?
Replies: 5
Views: 414

Contrabass- mouthpiece?

My Monke F contra came with a Josef Klier 2A and 2C. The 2A is very deep and open, the 2C much more shallow with a smaller throat. Both pieces have advantages- the 2C is easier to play in general, but the double valve range is not even close to the 2A. I could use either one, I think, but I really d...
by Burgerbob
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Marching Slide Trombone
Replies: 8
Views: 381

Re: Marching Slide Trombone

As someone who teaches bands and corps for months a year... It all works. Baritones, euphs, trombones, large bore trombones ( :eek: ), you name it. If you can get a section to play up to each other then it will be fine. And it's apples and oranges. Until you've heard a good euphonium section push yo...
by Burgerbob
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Thoughts on two basses
Replies: 13
Views: 887

Re: Thoughts on two basses

The 502 is lighter than the other courtois basses. It played very well, just not a sound that I found interesting. Good choice for a lighter horn.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:01 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: What’s your favorite trombone case?
Replies: 14
Views: 1326

Re: What’s your favorite trombone case?

I've used Bam Classic X2, Protec (2nd gen) X2, Eastman, Giardinelli (Reunion Blues?), SKB 360, and Bonna standard bass, extra-light tenor, and screwbell bass. The Bonna cases are the best all around, at being well built, light, small, protective, comfortable on the back, and having good storage. Mos...
by Burgerbob
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 709

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

fabled "no tuning" option Before now, I have only heard one other person mention this. Would the 70H Bell/72H be the best option for it? I borrowed a double Hagman valved 72H for a week and LOVED it! I dream of having something similar with the 72H slide/70H bell. the 7270H2HI Oh, no. I think every...
by Burgerbob
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 709

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

Well, yes, but it'll fit. I wouldn't use one as a suitable replacement on anything except a modern 62 or 110-112.

But it'll fit on more than that.
by Burgerbob
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 709

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

Should work with all Conns, including side tuning bell sections (so, the fabled "no tuning" option). Will not work with 'long slide' models... especially late 70H. Also 71H, 72H, 73H.. also poss 83H... otherwise.... Chris Are the connectors different? I swear I swapped some things around with a 70H...
by Burgerbob
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility
Replies: 19
Views: 709

Re: Conn 62H bass trombone bell compatibility

Should work with all Conns, including side tuning bell sections (so, the fabled "no tuning" option).
by Burgerbob
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:20 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Fitting Neotech grip to a double trigger bass trombone?
Replies: 13
Views: 684

Re: Fitting Neotech grip to a double trigger bass trombone?

The Gb paddle also may be on the wrong place, if it is so close to the lower cork barrel. It's not out of reason to just bend it to a new place.
by Burgerbob
Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: (Cassifieds) Cases
Topic: Best Case out there for a tenor?
Replies: 10
Views: 1118

Re: Best Case out there for a tenor?

afugate wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:58 am
Burgerbob wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:19 am
The new King cases for the 2B are super cool. Horn guys carries them.
They do look cool. Do you know if they will hold a 3BwF?

--Andy in OKC
No clue! They might be a 2B only case, really not sure. I would call and ask.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: (Cassifieds) Cases
Topic: Best Case out there for a tenor?
Replies: 10
Views: 1118

Re: Best Case out there for a tenor?

The new King cases for the 2B are super cool. Horn guys carries them.
by Burgerbob
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 64
Views: 2688

Re: What we're doing

Burgerbob what kinds of gigs are you expecting on a Contra? Strictly brass stuff or orchestral? Or solo? Much of the studio stuff here in LA requires a lot of doubles... if you play bass, the contra is almost a must! It's not as if I am in the studios right now, but I need to learn it in order to e...
by Burgerbob
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 64
Views: 2688

Re: What we're doing

Got stuff coming up on bass, large tenor, and euph. Also trying to become anything close to proficient at contra.
by Burgerbob
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Greg Black weights?
Replies: 9
Views: 630

Re: Greg Black weights?

I think either would work. My 42 is a little lighter than some big tenors out there so the regular weight is a good match.
by Burgerbob
Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Greg Black weights?
Replies: 9
Views: 630

Re: Greg Black weights?

What horn? I found the 1.25 to be a little shallow. I'm using a 3.5 right now but I miss the 1 rim.

I enjoy them in standard weight on my 42. Any lighter (for me) and the horn would be pretty bright.
by Burgerbob
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: I had the strangest message on FB today.
Replies: 6
Views: 570

Re: I had the strangest message on FB today.

That was me, and I apologize. I meant entirely in a joking tone that, in text, doesn't quite come across.

:shuffle:
by Burgerbob
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Greg Black weights?
Replies: 9
Views: 630

Re: Greg Black weights?

Standard weight is heavier than the average Bach. Lightweight is like a stock Bach, with a lighter sound a little more flexible. Medium and heavy are heavier.

I prefer standard weight. Great sound, easy to play, no real tradeoffs for what I do as far as I can tell. I play all styles on it.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Marcus Bonna Screwbell Case video
Replies: 7
Views: 502

Re: Marcus Bonna Screwbell Case video

I have one of these for my Thein tenor. It's an excellent case! It can be a little clumsy. Also, the little things - I'd like it to stay propped open when I open it. It closes on it's own, which is very awkward when I'm trying to get both bell bits out of it, undo the velcro, etc. But really and ex...
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Looking to get a mouthpiece to improve my lower register
Replies: 18
Views: 1229

Re: Looking to get a mouthpiece to improve my lower register

A Schilke 51 would be a great match.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:25 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud PDF? Anyone?
Replies: 3
Views: 280

Re: Playing loud PDF? Anyone?

There it is!! Thanks. I was looking up stuff by Eric Klay... Not Al Kay!
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Playing loud PDF? Anyone?
Replies: 3
Views: 280

Playing loud PDF? Anyone?

I remember someone posting a link to a short PDF by some famous commercial/jazz player about playing loud/high (can't remember which). It had a reference to a "burning focus" on a high Eb or F. I'd love to find that if someone can point me in the right direction.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Marcus Bonna Screwbell Case video
Replies: 7
Views: 502

Marcus Bonna Screwbell Case video

Hey all, I recently acquired an MB screwbell case for my new bell for travel. Here's my initial thoughts:



And yes, I had been using it upside down... Oops!
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Looking for a nice case that fits a Bach 36BO
Replies: 7
Views: 341

Re: Looking for a nice case that fits a Bach 36BO

Quick point, I put all my tuning slides all the way in matter what. This keeps them moving and they won't get crud on them too.
by Burgerbob
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 7th position lip slurs
Replies: 12
Views: 809

Re: 7th position lip slurs

No reason you only have to start on E! Play any slur in any position. I play most of my slurs (when I'm feeling it) all the way down to both valves and 7th. If you can focus and make great transitions from note to note in those long horn situations, it'll carry over to the open instrument.
by Burgerbob
Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:28 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Rath R3/Bach 36BO
Replies: 8
Views: 589

Re: Rath R3/Bach 36BO

I would keep the Bach and sell the Rath, more money!

But I love Bachs. :)
by Burgerbob
Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:27 am
Forum: Comments & Suggestions
Topic: Anonymity
Replies: 20
Views: 1532

Re: Anonymity

Who is this guy?

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