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by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:47 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts
Replies: 17
Views: 291

Tongue level, vowel sounds, thoughts

In the recent doodle tongue thread, baileyman talked about tongue level having to be just right for the range. Some time ago Doug told me if I could get my tongue level dialed in better, it would make things easier. I believe, but it's not something that's obvious to me. I can't really feel where my...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)
Replies: 17
Views: 253

Re: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)

We're talking past each other, I think. I recommend you visit Dave Wilkins's site.

http://www.wilktone.com/?page_id=371

He explains it better than I can. If we were in the same room I could show you what I mean, but not by typing.
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:29 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)
Replies: 17
Views: 253

Re: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)

Joel, My horn angle is straight out from my face, for the note that is the center of my range. For notes above that note, I have a small motion up and to the left; for notes below I move down and to the right. By move I don't mean the mouthpiece moves across the lips, but that the mouthpiece sticks ...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve Trombone Acceptance
Replies: 25
Views: 656

Re: Valve Trombone Acceptance

Thanks for the post. I bought a Getzen Valve bone with the slide back when I was in the Army Band. I found the Getzen to be too stuffy. I would like to play a King Valve Bone.....never tried one. Thanks for the post. I have the Getzen valve and slide combination. I didn't find the valve side stuffy...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)
Replies: 17
Views: 253

Re: Advise for Marching Trombone (Corps Style)

You've probably considered this idea already, but I'll put it out there just in case. Some DCI style bands are very rigid about uniformity in how the instruments are held. If you are forced to hold the trombone exactly horizontal, but that is not a good match for your embouchure, your tone will suff...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:01 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Listening and learning by ear, alto
Replies: 5
Views: 140

Re: Listening and learning by ear, alto

In short, it works really really well. Playing by ear makes your intonation better, frees you from visual paralysis, and helps you connect what you hear in your head with what your hands/arms/lips are doing. Matt Yes but. What I'm getting at is partly the mental process. I suspect mine is overly in...
by timothy42b
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Listening and learning by ear, alto
Replies: 5
Views: 140

Listening and learning by ear, alto

I had a thought this morning, and then saw that listening and learning thread. This is totally thinking out loud, sorry. Playing by ear. I spend a little time on it, because it's a skill I don't do well, and that's always an opportunity. Actually I thought it was just impossible for me, but it turns...
by timothy42b
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:04 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Listening and Learning: one song, three ways
Replies: 3
Views: 109

Re: Listening and Learning: one song, three ways

Triggered a thought about playing by ear, maybe a new thread is better.
by timothy42b
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:59 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO
Replies: 16
Views: 387

Re: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO

For me, adding water increases the slide speed by maybe 3%, and reduces the lube longevity by maybe 3000%. That's something I wondered too! It always felt like water decreased the lube longevity for me. And then there's a ton of condensation in my slide which may cause friction? Not sure about that...
by timothy42b
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:06 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass trombone and guitar
Replies: 11
Views: 483

Re: Bass trombone and guitar

I like that.

IMO. Trombone and guitar, nice. Trombone and piano, boring at first, then later irritating. Trombone and organ though, can be very nice. Could just be my ears.
by timothy42b
Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:15 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO
Replies: 16
Views: 387

Re: Trouble with Slide, Bach 42BO

For me, adding water increases the slide speed by maybe 3%, and reduces the lube longevity by maybe 3000%. But it does depend a bit on what I'm using. With SOM or Yamasnit, water makes my slide a tiny bit faster, but I have to reapply much sooner. With Superslick or other cream water has more effect...
by timothy42b
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: I need help to stop coasting!
Replies: 16
Views: 379

Re: I need help to stop coasting!

Neo Bri wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:40 pm
Sounds like you could use a goal. What about scheduling a mini-recital for friends, family, religious community, etc.?

And of course there's nothing wrong with posting a youtube video here periodically. Geezer and I will welcome the challenge. Hee, hee.
by timothy42b
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:09 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: I need help to stop coasting!
Replies: 16
Views: 379

Re: I need help to stop coasting!

My thoughts, from a community band amateur, so consider the source. I am looking for guidance. Telling me to "play more" or "do long tones" isn't specific enough. Exactly! That's way too vague. But so are your goals, as you've expressed them so far. "Play more" will make you "better." Neither is mea...
by timothy42b
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:53 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?
Replies: 10
Views: 283

Re: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?

I have a trumpet Arban book, and I play a bit out of each section reading it as alto, but adding two sharps.

Naturals are a challenge! I think it exercises my brain.
by timothy42b
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: Composition, Arrangement, & Theory
Topic: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?
Replies: 10
Views: 283

Re: Any tips for transposing alto to bass clef?

Harrison was the person on TTF who donated the alto trombone method. I don't know if he's here or not, but a google on "Harrison alto trombone method" turned up a link to download.
by timothy42b
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:55 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: changing the stand height
Replies: 2
Views: 135

changing the stand height

I play mostly straight out, and don't have the best vision. So that's a bit of a challenge. I can't play above or below the stand, so I play to the left, and use single vision glasses. I still struggle in less than perfect light. But the stand height has been stable for several years. I push it all ...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments
Replies: 23
Views: 662

Re: Production Methods for "Student" Level Instruments

I would guess there aren't enough professionals to buy the number of professional instruments produced. I think the volume is made up by amateurs, and if we didn't buy enough pro horns, the cost would go up and the pros would pay a lot more. If the number of purchasers is reduced enough - if trombon...
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 58
Views: 3103

Re: The Bunker

Uh oh, a week since the last post. I just want to share some success I'm proud of, even if it drives my family nuts. On August 21, 2015, I went to our work Wellness Center and had them evaluate my health. I'd hovered around 180 the past two decades. They stuck me in a Bodpod to determine my body com...
by timothy42b
Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: HP 932 & 933 ink cartridges
Replies: 8
Views: 356

Re: HP 932 & 933 ink cartridges

When the kids graduated and no longer needed color for homework, I gave up on the ink jet and bought a black and white laser printer. If I really need color for something I take a thumb drive to an office supply store and pay 15 cent a page. It just didn't make sense to keep a color printer around. ...
by timothy42b
Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:15 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Doodle tonguing in different ranges
Replies: 7
Views: 255

Re: Doodle tonguing in different ranges

Here's my take: All notes speak best when the little cavity in the mouth is in tune with the partial you're trying to play on the horn. (This tuning thing is blatantly obvious to me now, but I realize a couple years ago it would have sounded impossible.) And they speak with seemingly no effort. (Th...
by timothy42b
Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:01 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: What we're doing
Replies: 27
Views: 831

Re: What we're doing

Last week I played a rehearsal with the first community band I was with in this area. It's been about 15 years since I left them to go overseas, and when I returned 5 years later I didn't go back. The personnel have mostly changed, the director is new, but the book is the same, pieces not duplicated...
by timothy42b
Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 7th position lip slurs
Replies: 12
Views: 489

Re: 7th position lip slurs

If your arms are on the short side, that can affect the angle to the mouth. Or you could be not reaching far enough, and then trying to lip down. If you really struggle with 7th, you might consider just not doing it, or using T2 instead.
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Long slide short slide?
Replies: 12
Views: 645

Re: Long slide short slide?

Hmmm. The alto has proportionally an even shorter slide, right? The length of slide tubing as a percentage of the total length of the horn?
by timothy42b
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:42 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Video: The Art of the Impossible: MC Escher and Me - Secret Knowledge
Replies: 3
Views: 185

Re: Video: The Art of the Impossible: MC Escher and Me - Secret Knowledge

Yes. Awesome.

Time to re-read GEB.

Except I'm struggling through an online math course in my spare time.
by timothy42b
Thu May 31, 2018 8:43 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The Bunker
Replies: 58
Views: 3103

Re: The Bunker

Wow, you guys are really young! I'm used to thinking our group is mostly old furts like me. I was at a conference for work last week, and we talked a bit about generations. To my surprise most of the group was GenX - in the past they've been Boomers like me. When I got back I checked my own workplac...
by timothy42b
Tue May 29, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Brass instrument (lip reed) acoustics: an introduction
Replies: 2
Views: 220

Re: Brass instrument (lip reed) acoustics: an introduction

Very interesting. That players don't tune their vocal tracts is a bit surprising to me, especially in view of our talks about tongue position.

Even more surprising, I didn't find much there to quibble with. It's pretty straightforward.
by timothy42b
Mon May 28, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: what is superslick plus from the Slide Doctor video
Replies: 12
Views: 378

Re: what is superslick plus from the Slide Doctor video

I got a bottle of the Yamasnot this weekend. We were up in the next town for a movie (saw RBG, it was excellent) so we stopped at a Sam Ash. I've tried the Slide Doctor's method with Superslick and Yamasnot (since I don't have any of the Plus) and I dunno, it drags a bit like when you get too much c...
by timothy42b
Sun May 27, 2018 6:27 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: what is superslick plus from the Slide Doctor video
Replies: 12
Views: 378

what is superslick plus from the Slide Doctor video

I watched the Slide Doctor lubrication video recently. He uses a combination of Super Slick creme and Super Slick plus lubricant. I've used the Yamaha lube for a while and am satisfied, but it isn't sold locally. I'm curious as to whether the Plus is basically the same as the Yamasnot or the Ultrapu...
by timothy42b
Sun May 27, 2018 6:24 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs
Replies: 6
Views: 371

Re: BlowDry Brass vs. Herco Spitballs

Firstly, about red rot. Red rot can be the result of nearly any acid. The strength of the acid determines the rapidity of the development of red rot. What I remembered from engineering classes (and that's several decades back, so it's vague) was the opposite, that the zinc in brass was more likely ...
by timothy42b
Sat May 26, 2018 6:16 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Method Books
Replies: 10
Views: 600

Re: Method Books

The Brad Edwards lip slur book is excellent as well. It has some variations you'd never think of on your own. At least I wouldn't have.
by timothy42b
Sat May 26, 2018 12:24 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 1727

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

I agree with Matt. Very often conductors say "too loud" when the volume is not actually the problem. When you're in front splitting your focus between what you want to hear and inspire from the orchestra and playing the traffic cop with what the orchestra is actually playing, it's very easy to fall...
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing
Replies: 18
Views: 655

Re: Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing

I wonder what Siri or Alexa hears.
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 1727

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

Reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me, don't know if it was true. He was listening to a live radio broadcast of the CSO, the bass trombone was obviously very loud. At the end of the piece (I think he said it was a Shostakovitch symphony) the announcer allegedly said, "And that was Charles ...
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 11:32 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 1727

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

I sang for a choir director who in his later years frequently stopped and corrected mistakes of a special type: those we hadn't made, but where one could logically expect it. His hearing was less acute than formerly, and he assumed the mistake he'd expected had been made. Nice guy most of the time....
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 11:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing
Replies: 18
Views: 655

Re: Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing

Well, I heard Laurel on cell phone, stereo, and Koss Pro-4A headphones. I heard Yanny in a vehicle at highway speed.

I don't hear both simultaneously.
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing
Replies: 18
Views: 655

Laurel vs Yanny as relates to hearing

If you aren't aware of the latest viral internet story, google Laurel vs Yanny. It's similar that dress that seemed to be different colors. Apparently some people hear the recording as Laurel, others as Yanny. The "scientific" explanation is that different people attend to lower or higher frequencie...
by timothy42b
Fri May 18, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: New Horn: Monke F contra
Replies: 16
Views: 973

Re: New Horn: Monke F contra

I could be wrong, but my impression from living in Germany several years is that that ending vowel syllable should be pronounced as what American English calls a schwah, represented by an upside down e. (I don't know how to type that character.)
by timothy42b
Wed May 16, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 1727

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

What I think was going on is that directing the orchestra was stressing the conductor out (this was perceptible - the assignment was a little out of her comfort zone as a stick wagger); she had in advance decided on some hard-and-fast guidance that may or may not have fitted the playing situation, ...
by timothy42b
Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats
Replies: 42
Views: 1727

Re: Conductors that use trombones as scapegoats

Dave's diplomacy not only worked best for the situation, but generally you feel better later having done it that way. Not easy though. On the subject of volume, a director I had a couple years back claimed there was evidence that most of what an audience perceives from the band is just how loud the ...
by timothy42b
Sat May 12, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: (Alto) Bb Attachment Length
Replies: 8
Views: 308

Re: (Alto) Bb Attachment Length

Well, a Bb trombone is 9 feet, an alto 6 feet, so..................3 feet of tube? That means you could make a Bb tenor/alto trombone just by making a straight short trombone with a really curved bell section tubing. No valve, just continuous looped tubing in the gooseneck. It would fit in a really ...
by timothy42b
Thu May 10, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: The frustrations of a 'tweener
Replies: 7
Views: 637

Re: The frustrations of a 'tweener

I'm always thankful for the opportunity, I'm just not sure how I ended up there! The first few times might well have been on the recommendation of your prof, but they have to be happy with what they hear or they would not keep calling. No way it's just your playing. Well, of course your playing mus...
by timothy42b
Mon May 07, 2018 8:05 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Taper
Replies: 2
Views: 329

Taper

I came across an interesting article about the history and current use of the Morse taper.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3779551/
by timothy42b
Fri May 04, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tilting your head?
Replies: 7
Views: 487

Re: Tilting your head?

I don't think it's that important to be straight, but it is important to have the right angle to your chops, and these things all affect each other. Nobody's mouth is completely symmetrical, so we play at different angles left and right, up and down. For a given range there is an angle that's best f...
by timothy42b
Tue May 01, 2018 6:46 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Tuning Slide Lube Maintenance
Replies: 10
Views: 555

Re: Tuning Slide Lube Maintenance

I used lanolin for many years, then found a can of STP in the shed and never looked back, it's much better. A $3 can will probably do 50 trombones for 50 years. Caution, this stuff is really really hard to wash off your fingers. I haven't tried the high tech stuff like vacuum grease so I don't know ...
by timothy42b
Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keeping the horn steady
Replies: 13
Views: 827

Re: Keeping the horn steady

We have talked about holding the instrument palm down vs palm facing. I've also watched professionals with blazing speed, and they don't all do what they say they do. In particular, most use less wrist and more forearm. But they also tend to stabilize around an area of positions and postures. Jim Pu...
by timothy42b
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:10 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Keeping the horn steady
Replies: 13
Views: 827

Re: Keeping the horn steady

Jim Markey recently talked about hand position as you extend the slide. His belief is that the natural rotation of the joints involved means when the slide is all the way in, your thumb should be to your nose and your palm toward the floor. When it is all the way out, your thumb should be toward the...
by timothy42b
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:06 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Different take on a Hand Brace
Replies: 20
Views: 1140

Re: Different take on a Hand Brace

It is similar, but the pad that rests on your hand is much larger and more comfortable and the amount of adjustments is pretty much infinite. That said, nothing short of an ergobone or the like will support your wrist. I found holding my left arm in closer to my body (think bringing your elbow in t...
by timothy42b
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:59 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: Need advice on recording rehearsals using digital recorder
Replies: 2
Views: 191

Re: Need advice on recording rehearsals using digital recorder

I record the occasional rehearsal to listen to myself (intonation, balance) and most of our community band concerts. I use an H2 but the process is probably similar. I record at a low level. Import into Audacity. Select all, Normalize. That brings the levels up to listenable. Then I delete the silen...
by timothy42b
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:09 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Lexan Rim
Replies: 12
Views: 667

Re: Lexan Rim

A tablespoon of each? That IS a morning snack. Warning: abrupt veer off topic. 219 calories. I use a frother, it's not much different than adding creamer. I'm currently experimenting with the ADMF, alternate day modified fast. Every other day I reduce my calories to 600-700. It's supposed to give s...

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